When Dar Williams (who plays Saturday at The Grey Eagle) released her debut album, The Honesty Room, in 1994, she was pretty sure any career she might have would come from writing books about natural food stores. The music thing, she imagined, would probably just be something she did on the side. She showed up for a gig in Vermont after printing copies of the album and placed her first stack of CDs on the table next to copies of the book she’d just published. She was shocked when she discovered, at the end of the night, that she’d sold two copies of the book and 15 CDs.
“I was part of the Cambridge [Mass.] folk scene,” she says, “so there were definitely people who were pursuing full-time music careers. It was happening for them, so I knew it could happen. But I’d … told myself [the book] was going to be the real bread and butter of my career.”
Within a year or two, Williams found herself on the storied stage at the Newport Folk Festival and opening for Ani DiFranco, with a record deal from Razor & Tie and a contract with Fleming & Tamulevich (one of the folk world’s finest booking agencies). Granted, the prose-writing thing would eventually come back around. She frequently contributes to The Huffington Post these days and, last year, published a guidebook titled The Tofu Tollbooth, profiling natural and vegetarian options for hard-core road warriors like herself. But, seeing her prose career flourish comes only after she’s long since become one of the most beloved singer-songwriters on the contemporary folk circuit.
After a stint in Knoxville, electronic musician and producer Sai (aka 9th Phoenix) moved her family back to Asheville. She draws creative support from the local community where, she says, she finds a lot of synchronicity — such as her connection with fashion designer Danielle Miller of Royal Peasantry: “The amazing scope of her designs was such a great pairing with my tracks, so it blew me away when she agreed to work with me.”
Miller will stage a runway show, lending a visual element to Sai’s Saturday, Dec. 7, release show for her new album, Iyen, at Club Metropolis. The opening acts will be E8 électronique and Sonen; DJ Arque closes. 9 p.m., $5. club-metropolis.com.
Mountain Xpress: What are some of the themes on your new album?
Sai: Iyen is an album of duality — the title track is about needing both the love of self and the courage to love someone else. Other tracks, like “Sakura-red,” are instrumental but move through a dark beginning up into a brighter, more positive finish, kind of like the track that started the whole project. My writing moves with the seasons, so there’s a sort of summer-fading-into-autumn feel to many of the tracks.
How did the idea of having a fashion show at your release come about? Electronic music is vibrant and hypnotic, and having visually delightful things to coincide with the music is a great idea. I was reading an article about what to do for an album release party (because this is my first), and when I read, “Have a runway show,” I immediately thought, “That’s perfect.”
There seem to be fewer women creating electronic music. Do you think the field will open up to women in the future? There aren’t as many women in the topmost spotlight in electronic music, but when you do some digging, there are actually a ton of female producers and DJs out there paying the bills with their work. I also think women love tech as much as the guys do. Michelle Moog is a perfect example of this. My friend Sara Snyder from the duo Stereospread is a genius when it comes to the science of sound; she mastered my album.
You’re a mom as well as a musician. Is it hard to make time for both your family and your art? It’s really hard. I have three boys in elementary and middle school. During a show I’ll often sneak in a track that reminds me of them (like some “Minecraft” music or “Tetris,” or the “Legend of Zelda” theme) just to make myself crack up a little.
Read the full interview at mountainx.com. — Alli Marshall
“I always had this thing about not conning anybody into listening to my music,” she says of her unintentional fame. “The people I worked with early on said, ‘We’re not star-makers, we’re career-makers,’ and that’s what I wanted. The idea of being shot up a flagpole and then hitting the ground, because of the way pop careers are framed, flanking off in a what-ever-happened-to-her [sort of way] seemed really undesirable.”
So, Williams set off on a singer-songwriter career that has produced nine solo albums, a couple of live recordings and a particularly notable collaboration with Richard Shindell and Lucy Kaplansky — Cry Cry Cry. Her songs, like “When I Was a Boy” and “The Christians and the Pagans,” have become contemporary classics, influencing 20 years of folk singers. Meanwhile, her more accessible tunes, like “I Won’t Be Your Yoko Ono” and “Spring Street,” have made it OK for fledgling folkies to dabble with a catchy chorus now and then. In other words, she’s achieved a level of notoriety that can only be known as folk-famous.
This has earned her the freedom to make music naturally, rather than trying to fit any brand strategy. Williams’ most recent release, In the Time of Gods, is a 10-song recording based on the tumult inherent in classical Greek mythology. Granted, its songs are also firmly rooted in contemporary concerns. Album opener “I Am the One Who Will Remember Everything” laments on the orphaning of Afghani children who grew up to become members of the Taliban. As she explores how their lives — and the life of the world — might have been different had all those children not been orphaned by war, she keeps her mind’s eye on Hera, the goddess of marriage, who was not at all fond of children. And so the bar is set for an incredibly rich, literary collection.
“My big joke,” she says, “was that I made the album so I could thoroughly freak out my record company. But … I’m in the habit of following [inspiration] before anyone does any kind of market research, whether it’s writing my gender song, ‘When I Was a Boy,’ or a justice song based on Athena. It always seems to spring to my mind poetically as opposed to trying to engineer what I think people will want. That has been the luxury of my career. It’s not so much that I get to choose these kooky topics because I’m twisting away off the grid. I’m used to having inspiration lead my songwriting. … I think am where I belong. That’s the only thing that’s important to me. You want your music to count, and [my music has] counted.”
— Kim Ruehl, a freelance writer living in Asheville, can be reached at kim@nodepression.com.
who: Dar Williams with Angel Snow
where: The Grey Eagle
thegreyeagle.com
when: Saturday, Dec. 7
8 p.m., all ages show, fully seated
$22 in advance/$25 day of show